Did Jesus walk in Gloucestershire?
Archaeologist Dennis Price strongly believes that Jesus came to live in England and event spent some time right here in Gloucestershire. Listen to him being interviewed here.
"I think what he was doing here was working, as the legend suggests, and taking sanctuary in this country from the Roman threat in his homeland."
Dennis PriceAccording to Dennis Price, Jesus Christ spent most of his teenage years in England, even reaching Gloucestershire, and didn't return to the Middle East for almost twenty years.
Dennis, an archaeologist, has written a book called 'The Missing Years of Jesus: The Greatest Story Never Told' in which he shares his theories.
"I think there's more than a passing chance that he visited Gloucestershire, especially the area around Clearwell", says Dennis speaking to Richard Atkins, presenter of the Sunday Breakfast show on BBC Radio Gloucestershire.
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"Clearwell had mines that were being worked in the late Iron Age which is precisely the time when legends place him here. I don't doubt it for a moment."
Theory
So what is Dennis' theory? He explains...
"From what I can see, Jesus effectively goes missing at the age of twelve and reappears at the age of thirty and he's unrecognisable to those who should have known him best.
"As for the length of time, if he'd left his homeland in his early twenties, there wouldn't have been such a difference in his appearance.
"People would have recognised someone who'd only been away for ten years or so, so my guess is that he was here for as long as 18 years."
Evidence
...and his reason for travelling to England?
"I think what he was doing here was working, as the legend suggests, and taking sanctuary in this country from the Roman threat in his homeland.
"As he reappeared at the age of 30 with his ministry - which he clearly hadn't formulated by the age of 12 - then it simply seems to me that he spent a lot of his time here planning what he was going to present to the world when he went back home."
Richard asked Dennis if there was any evidence to Jesus' adolescent years being spent in the South West, to which he finished...
"I strongly suspect that if anyone starts digging very carefully around certain areas, in Glastonbury and possibly in Cornwall, even in Wiltshire, that some might come to light. I don't think it's unthinkable by any means."
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YES HE DID!
Isa 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
Isa 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
Isa 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Isa 51:5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.
Isa 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
Isa 66:19 And I will put a sign among them, and I will send those who are still living to the nations, to Tarshish, Put, and Lud, Meshech and Rosh, Tubal and Javan, to the sea-lands far away, who have not had word of me, or seen my glory; and they will give the knowledge of my glory to the nations.
Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
MARKS OF ISRAEL:
a great and mighty nation: Gen.12:2, 18:18, Deut. 4:7-8
named "Great": Gen. 12:2
be blessed of God: Gen.12:2
will be a blessing to other nations/races: Gen. 12:2-3
become many nations: Gen. 17:4
a company or commonwealth of nations: Gen.35:11
descendants to be kings and rulers: Gen. 35:11
only Israel is custodian of God's Word: Ps. 147:19, Is. 59:21
great agricultural wealth: Gen. 27:28, Deut. 8:7-9, 33:13-14
a land of great mineral wealth: Deut. 8:9, 33:15-16, Gen. 49:25
12 tribed Israel to lose all trace of her lineage: Is.42:19, Hosea 1:9divorced and dispersed, they could not return to Palestine: Hosea 2:6blind to their identity: Is. 29:10-11, Romans 11:7-8,25
Israel to spread abroad in all directions: Gen. 28:14, Deut. 33:17, Is. 27:6
Israel to have a new home: II Sam. 7:10, I Chron. 17:9
new home is not Palestine, but the isles of the sea: Is. 24:15, 49:1, Jer. 31:10
Israel's new home northwest of Palestine: Is. 49:12, Jer. 3:18, 31:8
would occupy and live in the islands and coasts: Is. 49:1,3, 51:5, Jer. 31:7- 10
would colonize, spreading abroad: Gen. 49:22, Ps. 2:8, Zech. 10:8-9, Is. 26:15, 27:6
colonize the desolate places: Is. 35:1, 43:19-20, 49:8, 54:3
Israel to lose a colony (America from England) then expand: Is. 49:19-20
will irrigate the deserts: Is. 58:11
will build the waste places: Is. 58:12
will be a maritime nation, command of the seas: Num. 24:7, Ps. 89:25
will receive strangers and refugees (kinsmen living abroad): Lev. 19:34, Is. 11:10,14:1, 56:6-8
Israel to have a change in name: Is. 65:15, Hosea 2:17
Israel to be called by a new name: Is. 62:2
Israel named after Isaac's son i.e.. Saxon: Gen. 21:12, Romans 9:7
Israel to be called the sons of God i.e.. accept Christ: Hosea 1:10
were to be called by the name of God i.e.. Christian: Num. 6:22-27, Rev. 3:12
Israel to have a new language (English): Is. 28:11, Zeph. 3:9
Israel to come under new covenant: Jer. 31:33, Heb. 8:10'brith' means covenant, 'ain' means land (Britain- covenant land)'ish' means man (British- covenant man) Joseph's coat of many colors, forerunner of Scottish plaid: Gen:37:3
the cubit of the Pyramid, Noah's ark, Moses tabernacle and Solomon's temple is the English 25 inch measurement
the population of the wilderness with Moses and the original 13 American colonies was 3 millioninscribed on the Liberty Bell is Leviticus 25:10
like Joseph, lost Israel is powerful yet unrecognized by brothers, giving bread to the world
the coronation ceremony for British royalty same as King David: II Kings 11:12, II Chron. 13:5
the coronation stone of British royalty is the stone of Israel which Jacob used for a pillow and set up as a pillar: Gen. 28:19,22, 35:14-15
Joseph was hated as we are today by the rest of the world: Gen. 37:4, 49:23
Joseph sold into slavery as we are put into economic bondage: Gen. 37:28, Jer. 30:8
the descendants of Joseph spread abroad: Deut.33:17
today we declare ourselves to our brethren as Joseph did: Gen. 45:1,3
America shall blossom as the rose in the desert: Is. 35:1
eagle with outstretched wings national emblem of U.S.A.: Is. 18:1, Rev. 12:14
our early ambassadors had to travel over sea: Is. 18:2
a nation meted out (measured, surveyed land by boundaries): Is. 18:2
whose land the rivers have spoiled (to cleave or specifically quartered): Is. 18:2
people scattered , tall and peeled like smooth trees (no beards) and terrible from their beginning fits the Indians wasted by continual wars and the later White Americansthe land beyond (west of) the rivers of Ethiopia is America: Is. 18:1
"In God we trust" became our national motto passed by Congress, becoming law of the United States of America, July 30, 1965
Israel's sojourn into the wilderness (America): Hosea 2:14
Israel to be a people saved by the Lord: Is. 43:9-12, 44:1-3
As the end of the age draws near, travel and search for knowledge and information shall be increased: Daniel 12:4 much more so in America
When you consider that there are more than 100 recognized nations in the world today, the mathematical odds against all of these identification marks being fulfilled by just one small group of nations, all of the same blood, is billions to one. But since it has happened, that the marks of Israel have been fulfilled by the Anglo Saxon and kindred people, do you think it mere accident or coincidence? If we are not Israel, then what has happened to all of God's prophecies? It certainly is not the Jews or anybody else that even comes close to matching the biblical descriptions. It is the White race alone that fits every piece of the puzzle.
http://www.kinsmanredeemer.com/armappendices.htm#Appb
Psa 97:1 The LORD reigneth; let the earth rejoice; let the multitude of isles be glad thereof.
Psa 97:2 Clouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne.
Psa 97:3 A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round about.
Psa 97:4 His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.
Psa 97:5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the LORD, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.
Psa 97:6 The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.
Psa 97:7 Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.
Psa 97:8 Zion heard, and was glad; and the daughters of Judah rejoiced because of thy judgments, O LORD.
Psa 97:9 For thou, LORD, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods.
Psa 97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psa 97:11 Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.
Psa 97:12 Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
8 comments:
It's such a pleasant thought, isn't it, to consider that He might have walked Britain's green hills?
While this is not a doctrine of the faith, such musings remind me of how I once labored in vain to feel warm towards the swarthy, foreign Jews who were allegedly the blood-kin of the One Who saved me by His grace. But realizing with full assurance that He is one of us, an Adamic man...well, the comfort is immeasurable.
Thank you for posting this, my sister.
But HE did Wheeler!
Have you heard of the"Traditions of Glastonbury"? By E. Raymond Capt
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Wheeler, HIS blood runs through our veins!!!!!!!!!!!
He is our Kinsman Redeemer by the Blood, kinship!!!!!!!!
Oh, yes, Joy, I definitely believe that He is our Kinsman Redeemer by the blood. As I said in my comment, I realize with full assurance that He is one of us, etc. I didn't mean to leave the impression that I don't hold to this as an important doctrine.
What I meant was that I'm not 100% sure that He came to the British Isles. I certainly like to think He did, mind you! And I'm still studying this topic. I had skimmed Mr. Capt's work some time back, but thanks to your recommendation, I will give it a much closer reading now. Thank you for the link. And as always, thank you for your service to our people.
I understood what you meant, I just get excited about sharing the Blood of our Christ! (BIG smile)
CHRIST in BRITAIN
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The study of Jesus in Britain touches on the Royal family, the establishment of the Church, Paul's visit to Britain, and even the founding of the Roman church.
Various and many historical documents indicate that, after Jerusalem, the first Christian church was established in England. It's founder, and founder as well of many seminaries, was Joseph of Arimathea, the uncle of the Virgin Mary. He was Jesus' great uncle. Joseph was a rich merchant with a large fleet of ships that ran the tin trade for the Roman Empire, between England and the Mediterranean.
As Jesus' great uncle, Joseph became Jesus' Guardian (by Law, as next of kin) when Mary's husband Joseph died early in Jesus' life. He took Jesus with him on his journeys to Glastonbury, England. The place we know as Avalon; the King Arthur Avalon. This is the location of the first Christian church built above ground.
To paraphrase an old saying, "All Christian roads lead to England."
The following information was taken from two of the many volumes on the subject of Jesus' spending time in Britain. They are, the Traditions of Glastonbury, by E. Raymond Capt, and Did Our Lord Visit Britain, by C.C. Dobson.
ABSENT EVIDENCE
If Jesus was indeed absent from Judea from age twelve to age thirty, as some believe, we should be able to find evidence that this was the case. In Matt 17 Jesus was being asked for the Stranger's tax. They seemed aware that Jesus lived in Capernaum. They didn't know if he was exempt from the tax, having been gone for a long time.
John the Baptist, who was Jesus' cousin, and spent time with Jesus as they grew up, was very uncertain as to Jesus' identity at his baptism. If Jesus had spent the "lost years" in Judea, he and John would certainly have seen each other at the three yearly Feasts.
Then we find two accounts of Jesus' identity being questioned. "Is this not Joseph's son?" "Brought up here?" (Luke 4) "Is not this the carpenter's son?" (Matt 14) And in John 1 we find that Nathaniel, who only lived five miles from Nazareth, doesn't know Jesus. Capt says that Nathaniel was from Cana.
JESUS' VISITS
Of Jesus' visits to England, scattered evidence abounds. Here's a short scenario from C.C. Dobson
"As a boy He was brought merely for a visit by Joseph of Arimathea on one of his voyages. Later as a young man He returned and settled at Glastonbury for the purpose of quiet study, prayer, and meditation. Here He erected for Himself a small house of mud and wattles. " Dobson goes on to present historical evidence.
In a letter to Pope Gregory, St.Augustine states that there was a church "constructed by no human art, but divinely contructed (or by the hands of Christ Himself), for the salvation of His people."
The historian, Gildas, says Jesus' "Light and precepts" were "afforded...to this island during the ...last year of the reign of Tiberius. Tiberius retired to Caprae in A.D. 27.
William of Malmesbury includes in his writings the contents of a letter given by King Ina to Glastonbury, 700 AD."To the ancient church, situate in the place called Glastonbury (which Church the Great High Priest and Chiefest Minister formerly through His own ministry, and that of angels....." This confirms Gildas' statement that Jesus had a ministry at Glastonbury.
The historical records called the Domesday Surveys, also bear witness to Jesus' presence in Glastonbury. These surveys state that Glastonbury contained 12 hides (160 acre parcels) of land that "have never paid tax." This was because the King Arviragus gave these parcels to Joseph of Arimathea when he arrived in England in 37 AD.
TRADITIONS
Four of the many traditions of Jesus coming to England are discussed in Capt's book.
Ancient carvings on the stone arch of Place Manor Church has an insignia of an anchor, a lamb and cross. The accompanying pictographs tell the story of Jesus and His uncle coming to Place for tin.
Another traditional story is that of Jesus teaching the miners of Cornwall how to smelt tin from ore.
Old Cornwall mining Ordinance maps show two interesting names. "Corpus Christi" (Body of Christ), and "Wheel of Jesus" (wheel is a Cornish name for mine). Also found in abundance in Cornwall's mining area are "Tunic Crosses." These crosses picture a Christian cross on one side and the image of a young lad dressed in a short tunic; obviously not a picture of a crucified or risen Christ.
This quote from Capt relates the Mendips mining area to Joseph and Jesus. "Traditions among the hill folk of Somerset relate that Joseph, after first seeking tin from the Scillies (islands) and Cornwall, came to the Mendips and was accompanied on several occassions by the boy Jesus. At the parish Church of Priddy, high on top of the Mendips, they have an old saying: 'As sure as our Lord was at Priddy.' And a carol sung be the children of Priddy begins: "Joseph was a tin merchant, a tin merchant, a tin merchant, and goes on to describe him arriving from the sea in a boat."
Much has been written about the Lost Years of Jesus. Many accounts place him in India. One South American tradition sounds very much like Jesus visiting that continent. In fact, many say that the complete and speedy success of the Spanish invaders was due to this tradition; that the Visitor prophsied that He would return.
Consider. If Joseph had a fleet of ships, that gave Jesus access to worldwide travel. Do not doubt for even a second that world travel to ALL lands was possible. There is abundant evidence to prove the fact.
The traditions of Glastonbury and Cornwall form the following scenario:
Joseph of Arimathea was an uncle of the Virgin Mary, being a younger brother of her father. He gained his wealth as an importer in the tin trade, which existed between Cornwall and Phoenicia. On one of his voyages he took Our Lord with him when a boy. Our Lord either remained in Britain or returned later as a young man, and stayed in quiet retirement at Glastonbury. Here he erected for himself a small house of mud and wattle. Later Joseph of Arimathea, fleeing from Palestine, settled in the same place and erected a mud and wattle church there.
The contents of these several pages on the Cradle of Christianity will be found to over lap. That can't be helped, as the whole topic takes in many areas of study which all relate importantly to each other. So the study of Jesus in Britain touches on the Royal family, the establishment of the Church, Paul's visit to Britain, and even the founding of the Roman church.
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I have this book also,
although it's been a few years since I've read it. Now seems as good a time as any to bring it back out !
Thanks for the prodding !
... wanted to mention about that pic of your grandma also.
Yes, praise God we will see loved ones again. I too dearly miss mine. What a time it will be !
I understand about re-reading some books, we can always use a refresher dose. I'm going to look and see if the whole book is online somewhere.
My granny, boy do I miss her. I loved the smell of her and her soft wrinkly skin. How she always wanted to hold my hand and stroke it.
Yep looking real forward to seeing her again. It will be a great time Jeff!
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